Good Morning

"ttyymmnn" (ttyymmnn) 08/31/2020 at 09:05 • Filed to: good morning oppo, wingspan

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Happy Monday, Oppo.

Lockheed Prop Jet Electra, N1882. The prototype Electra turboprop was N1881, so I can only guess that this was the second one Lockheed built.

E90M3 > ttyymmnn 08/31/2020 at 09:14

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Morning. Played this game yesterday with my GF.

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > ttyymmnn 08/31/2020 at 09:14

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I still find it amazing that this platform lives on as the P-3C Orion— still in active service, despite the P-8 coming in.

Fifty years in a work-everyday role is pretty damn good.

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > E90M3 08/31/2020 at 09:19

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Did the game end with you stranded in a hotel somewhere with stewardesses?

And Old-Fashioneds?

ttyymmnn > E90M3 08/31/2020 at 09:26

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How was it? I posted about that game a few months back when I spotted it at Target. 

ttyymmnn > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish 08/31/2020 at 09:29

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Give this article from A&S Magazine a read. It’s fantastic.

https://www.airspacemag.com/military-aviation/i-got-those-old-beat-orion-blues-180949487/

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > ttyymmnn 08/31/2020 at 09:35

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I have a family friend who flew them out of Moffett NAS for years in the 1980s.  He’s got some interesting stories of the patrol training missions.

DarkCreamyBeer > ttyymmnn 08/31/2020 at 09:38

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I can't make out the tail number, but here's the construction list:  https://www.planelogger.com/Aircraft/ConstructionList/L-188%20Electra

E90M3 > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish 08/31/2020 at 09:41

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Be a much better ending. 

E90M3 > ttyymmnn 08/31/2020 at 09:42

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We enjoyed it. This is the second time we’ve played and it’s taken a bit to get the hang of the game. 

ttyymmnn > DarkCreamyBeer 08/31/2020 at 09:47

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As far as I’ve been able to tell, having done a fair bit of searching last night, this is 1882 and there is another that was 1881. At least at this stage, they had different livers. This is 1881. I can’t find a detailed enough photo where I can read the registration of 1882, but it came from SDASM, which is a reliable source.

ttyymmnn > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish 08/31/2020 at 09:48

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I imagine he does.

user314 > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish 08/31/2020 at 10:19

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Probably going to be 80-90 years by the time the last one retires from government service. The rest of South America will keep their s flying as long as they can to keep an eye on Colombia and Venezuela, ditto S.Korea and Taiwan for N. Korea and China respectively. Singapore wants to buy the Navy’s P-3s when they’re retired, and DHS/Customs/BCBP will keep flying their AEW&C variants until something better comes along.

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > ttyymmnn 08/31/2020 at 11:00

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Oh, he’s got a doozy about a “routine training mission” trying to sink a sitting duck ship out of Barking Sands.  Think of “Giligan’s Island Three Hour Tour” but with live rounds.

RacinBob > ttyymmnn 08/31/2020 at 11:17

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Pretty comparable to a B-17 in size. But if the numbers are correct it has 4900 Hp per engine. Meanwhile the B-17 has only 1200 Hp per engine. One Allison P-3 engine has almost as much Hp as the entire B-17. It also weighs twice as much and has a maximum speed of 470 mph vs 287 mph for the B-17.

To think 20 years later they could do this with a turboprop would have amazed a B-17 designer.....

ttyymmnn > RacinBob 08/31/2020 at 11:29

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The B-17, for all of the work it did from 1941-1945, was still very much a 1930s airplane. And Boeing proposed the B-29 in 1940. A lot happened in just a few years at Boeing. But yes, the turboprop was a real game changer. Here was have an entire B-17 flying on just one turboprop.

I wrote a piece about this plane, wow, three years ago.

https://oppositelock.kinja.com/planelopnik-did-you-know-1818616227

Turbineguy: Nom de Zoom > ttyymmnn 08/31/2020 at 12:05

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Many years ago I was at Tom Reilly’s Flying Tigers resto shop in Florida. They were working on this very plane, restoring it to original condition as the Liberty Belle. Sadly, the plane was lost in 2011 when a fire right after takeoff resulted in a corn field landing and the aircraft was consumed by fire. Not sure if any attempt to restore it ever happened, but Reilly would be the guy to do it. 

ttyymmnn > Turbineguy: Nom de Zoom 08/31/2020 at 12:08

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Reminiscent of Kee Bird . What a shame .

Turbineguy: Nom de Zoom > ttyymmnn 08/31/2020 at 12:19

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Kee Bird was a big loss as there are only 2 other Superforts flying. T here are 9 other airworthy B-17s at last count. Not sure if that number includes Collings’ 9-0-9 which was lost in a crash at BDL last October.

ttyymmnn > Turbineguy: Nom de Zoom 08/31/2020 at 12:25

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I wrote a piece a couple of weeks ago about the B-17 ball turret gunner, and thought about including a video about how you could go out in the desert somewhere and fire a ball turret. It was part of a whole B-17 experience which included flying, but the video had shots of 9-0-9, and that made me sad.